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Can you hear a stick in yeah, loud and clear 7?
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Oh, first thing is the minutes from the June 16 meeting Marion sent out any comments, questions, or concerns a motion to group the minutes Rebecca second by Julie all in favor.
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Hi: Okay, Do we have any public? No, no one in attendance.
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Thank you. Thanks, Allen. thanks, David. Hi! The July claims are fairly routine with a couple of things that I wanna just point your attention to do.
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You all have copies, 2 pages a total is $92,000, $20,000, which is all content related.
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There is a $35,000 charge for the Westchester library system.
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This is the second semi-annual payment.
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Together, they told just shy of $69,000.
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This was the result of the big success that John had in changing the arrangement of the services that we're getting from the Westchester library system, and next year, and instead of close to $70,000, it will be less than
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$60,000 so that's the $35,000.
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You see, at the bottom of the second page. The other thing you might want to take note of is the $15,000 payable to
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A 2 architects or new friends. this will bring the total payments up to $80,000.
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If you remember, the contract price was 100, with an additional 15% contingency.
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But nothing here out of the ordinary if you have any questions i'll.
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I'll be happy to try to answer martha may be able to help me as well.
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I think the only question I talk related to
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A 2 architects Is we now we've got left.
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Are we on have to use that as planned or we anticipating, needing the contingency?
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I don't have answer for that. there's always a incidental cost like printing and publishing, and whatever those that's what come out of the continue Yeah.
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But you feel like we're on pace to deliver Now we've done 88, nine yes,
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Okay, any other questions. Okay. I have a motion to approve the claims.
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Direct. Controller. Okay. 92,785 cents.
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Julie second by Dick, all in favor. Thanks.
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Thank you. Thank you, Dick, for the you want to.
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Not the master plan with the Well, John's record is before you.
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Revenue expenses, I think, Does anybody have any questions on them?
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At this point. No, I mean it feels like in our revenue line that we're farther past. we're we're under budget based on where we are in the year.
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I don't know if there's like sort of like about behind.
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Yeah.
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I don't, really have much to add to that and You're gonna talk a little bit about trust and agency, or get that to Dick.
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There's some other financial pieces that work with this is there anything you wanted to add to this stick on.
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The Oh, I I think the particularly with the bulleted notes on the first page of the directors report.
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It's the revenue and expense summary is fairly clear.
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If you have any questions with respect to the drainage project of the master plan or the equipment purchases, I'm happy to to advise. Hi, John talked about the this presentation before you went away hey?
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Can I have just one question just I wanna make sure i'm understanding this right?
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So drainage project. is 222 in a bit. There's a construction grant that is not reflected here.
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That will be used against that so like we won't get the full 2 to 2 back.
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But we'll see 1 40, and of the 222, and change $45,000 had already been budgeted right so the number that appears in The transfers column
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for capital lung repayments among expenses is really adding up the 222,000, the 95,500, the 21, 8, 98, and subtracting the 45,000
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dollars, and if you don't round out any of these numbers you actually do come up with a 200, 9,863, which is a transfer, it's coming from capital loan
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replacements, and they're no longer part of the it and other budgeted category, which is why those appear as negatives in that column we had voted on those last one
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Now as far as the trust and agency balance sheet and the other charts.
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John decided that it was a pretty good idea, because we have so much money in reserved, most particularly the Odel amounts of money.
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But there are lots of pockets of funding here that we draw upon, and he thought it was helpful for you to get a good sense of where we are.
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With respect to the agency phones, the activities that you see.
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Basically, if you look at the one that's part of the Director Director's report, you see, there's been a change of roughly 17,000 in connection with the restricted purpose principle available group of funds
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you see, from 1 25 to 1 42. That's the result of the $20,000 of the your gift being transferred into operating funds this is your I think is the end of
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the kids who were killed down the block.
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And we will be putting together some sort of memorial for them.
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The the major change in the third line, Unrestricted purpose principle available.
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You can see that the number is going down roughly.
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$95,000. that's basically the fry fund remember we're using an agency fund for the the work that
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A 2 is doing for us. And these are numbers that are basically reflected.
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On the next 3 charts, which are the expense reports.
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The income statement and the balance sheet. And John did want to give you a sense of the history of the balance sheet for these.
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So these funds as well as the overall operating funds for the for the library. sorry question, or any other part of funds, either the donations or like any of the library
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reserves that's my funds that are going to be affected by the market.
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And how how do we account for that in our budget elsewhere?
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But I seem to remember some of the hotel money I thought came in in the form of like a J. working account, and I don't know whether we sold and invested all of that at the time we took it on or if
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it's still my understanding
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The numbers continue to grow modestly given their size it's modest but presumably again, I don't know what kind of instruments they're invested in.
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But as rates go up and opportunities to renew, go up I guess.
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Is there something very different, because You're not seeing yeah certainly the market?
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Thank you, Dick. just on my phone here it's like we are some sweat. And while they reconcile the stock slip, I was a total like millionaire
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Very good. Okay, So is that it out that's bad it's an Oh, on the fourteenth fine through the book.
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Sales setup. break down 20 since 2. so 20
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And there are some questions to very end so from the group barrier this way also.
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So, John, so we'll get to the next week one of personnel item on the is that we have hired another library and substitute
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Since this is an admiral position And so we just do that right?
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Now any questions on that A motion to include the hiring of Rebecca, and seconded by
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Okay, Now we're gonna move on to the master plan conversation.
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Really, we have much to plan is basically 2 different conversation.
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We don't know you don't close up yet.
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That's just This is mass plan itself is our vision for the library is this what we would like our library to be functional like it, you know a general sense.
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Okay, second conversation is, well, how, if we decide that this is what we want?
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How do we get there? So today, Then I just talk about the first part.
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What that vision is. Is this what we want our library, and then we do what Hma is put together, and see what our thoughts are
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It's gonna put it up on screen
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Couple of weeks ago.
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Hey? These are the slides that Henry are prepared when we brought in the community and members of the town in the village to take a look.
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This is a reminder of what the overall vision is.
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Starting on the first page with exterior views of the main library on the top, the branch library on the bottom showing the pervas that would create some outdoor space which we know as much wanted libraries today and then we're going to the main
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library. This is the new entrance from the parking lot.
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As you were walking in. you see the stairs or as they were except that you're entering on the left side pretty much through where the glass case display case is now and where you see the gentleman walking he's But actually between
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I believe a window is separating that space from that walkway space, but you can see you can see all the way through to the front of the building, and all the way through to the other side.
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That's that walkway space where that gentleman was just walking
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So this is the atrio through considering. to open up the space to the downstairs.
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Bring light to the downstairs. But you can see here is a lot of extra seating.
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And just generally more open floor space. This is the view from the lower level of that atrium space.
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So this this checker board up on the right here is really the wall behind the circulation
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Yeah for main, the main level reading room with seating on the mezzanine.
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Additional seating below the share list to get up to the second level.
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Over here is another seating space
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This is from the mezzanine, cutting back the stacks, showing, succeeding
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Aerial view. CD. atrium pergola kind of a replanning of the grounds.
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Configure it offway instead of having a stairway here,
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Here's the stadium seating I love the fact that it's showing the breakfast club, and it's the library.
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Good details, and this would be coming off the east side of the building right now location of the windows and the staff lounge right with an overgrown which is that we're going to take out Yeah, and this is the
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branch library layout. you see the lower right hand you see the schematic where just putting it in about 3 parts opening up the space a lot on the top on the top image where the mother and daughter are walking That's
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where the circulation desk is exactly with circulation, just really opening up that
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Back to the approval. Children's area this is outside the main library.
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Try to keep some of the trees there separated behind that edge.
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Here is actually an additional space proceeding for adults, perhaps.
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And here is the floor plan of the main level on the best name as needed.
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Soft left here.
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What this shows is cutting back stacks, much needed meeting space.
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Also re-positioning the service desk, because now the atrium have to read.
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We position the service desks and staff's working spaces in the starter blue area.
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This also shows a a suggestion for the children's through a different children's zoom layout plus taking over the technical services area and office space for other programmatic spaces.
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There is an entrance onto the pergola from the children's room and the old entrance to the building.
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You can see that. it goes out to an account of this outside area rather than being entrance
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That's it
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What are your thoughts? but anybody like to see any specific sliding in are facing the children's room because that was the one place where it's like that's where we started in terms of like wanting to reimagine but we haven't actually
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seen as much detail of that space, so it looks like they've got.
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They kept stacks, or they are to a certain extent but added yeah.
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See we don't have stacks here I don't know if those are windows or stacks.
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I guess it's just these are the stacks I don't have any along this. There's stacks here.
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We don't have stacks here we're here, or we do have one here, but not along these walls, because they go all the way over and removed to to create like a more of a toddler
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play but in the back all things possible, and then and then the dark blue could be multi's program area so story time to be in the dark blue.
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But then it could also be for cause that's also gonna still have this space in it out right the staff doors there that could still be away in and out.
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Yes, look like there's a ton of I know we've added the children's stable space, and it doesn't look take address.
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Just trying to take that from our supplies some of the playfulness or whimsy at least, in fact, just for using or addressing But it was also about like, Are we having more organics like through with right I just try I guess my only thing is like it would be helpful to understand?
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More of a schematic vision for the children's room So that was kind of our ankle point initially, and I feel like I have the least understanding of how that's actually gonna materialize.
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Versus like how much help like telegraphic a picture.
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I have everybody else. So let me, hear what you're saying, I think that a lot of the things you want to call or from the right because what they they did address a lot of issues that they want
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to put a collapse. I was just saying that I actually do think it addressed a lot of our issues for the children's room.
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They they put up the class fall, which is gonna print sounds.
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They move the younger kids to the back corner, which is far from where they account.
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It looks almost like that far corner where it is like the toddler children's picture books currently it's going to be more like a flex space which is nice because see it's like a couch right i'm
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seeing that I think that they are and I think we'll get to be thoughtful about it, like decor in the room, and how you know, and I do think our children's Liberians. currently we'll own that well, I do I
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I hear your concern. I do think it's I would like some more pictures of like how ,
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And i'm curious just to that space where the current you know .
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Is that what we intend for the that's right what is the young adult space right now?
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Okay.
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Okay, staff area and thinking about, you know, having them have a little sexual library themselves.
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Right right So that young adult section very I just also I'm, sure it's hard to read with this here says also the angle programs.
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Program room for you have adults as opposed to just a general program.
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So what would be the difference between the young adult programmer and the Other I think that's a programmatic answer that alright So the idea is that my understanding from the personal they sit in these here that's like one of their
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indoor spaces, they also and outside, and then, like after a certain where they use like the study carols.
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Okay, So there's really not a getting yeah it's not It's not the booth area which is actually larger than it looks, because that's like a whole part of that but it's not sound .
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That's not really separate, and I wonder what that would really be to them, as in that it is still very open.
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I know we we talked a lot about the importance of having visuals on what's happening, but that's basically just the section for library.
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Yes, so is that really that appealing to your adults I don't know.
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I don't know something to about are they gonna use it I think they're gonna want that or downstairs.
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Yeah, I agree. And how will the staff feel about them wanting the downstairs of their hangouts?
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These are things to think about, though, like the monsters is going to become very appealing.
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Once it's open, I mean should we go with something like this which we think is beautiful.
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Not that there aren't things turn out but I think this is just beautiful, but like what is the staff?
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How is the staff gonna feel he can't be like you can't.
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Yes, you don't need to I mean, I broadly I think i'm thrilled with that.
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I just like the team like the core team that worked on.
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I think fantastic.
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No I don't know I I mean i'm I'm pretty hi!
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I don't want a short circuit that the issues involving design, but I think we have a threshold question which we can put off a little further in the discussion.
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If you like, but looking at the estimates of cost, and adding in the 50% ,
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Yeah, cause like when we talked about like we wanted it to preserve integrity of the building maximize the mid-century elements outside indoor.
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It does all of that wanted to maximize space without having to add square footage.
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I feel like we've created multiple rooms that are my purpose great flexibility for our community now, and our community in the future.
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We haven't traded off on collection right or you know Significant: Yeah. Just so.
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I just like, just in terms of what we've created and added new and diverse space settings that represent so it and it feels to me broadly like we hit the brief.
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And then so the biggest question still are I i'd like to say something with respect to it design just to open it up.
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I I have mentioned it to a couple of trustees.
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My reservations about the design element of the pergolas.
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Both are in the main library, and the branch i'm concerned. that, they may not get the kinds of use that we would like, though of course, we've been advised that anything that is in close might be
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prohibitively expensive but i'm just not a great admirer of the pergolas at either location from both a design point of view, and from a functional point of view, i'm happy to go along if that's
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the general sense. but I just wanted to open up a reservation that I had with that aspect of the design.
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Yeah, what is it about the that you isn't appealing to you?
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Well, they seem to me to stick out and not be harmonized with the overall sense of the architecture of the building, particularly in the shade, which, of course, is variable.
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We could choose a different color than the you know that that rich red gold.
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But i'm also concerned about how practical their use will be because they're not enclosed. and how many months of activity and use can we expect to have those are the concerns i'm not opposed to
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these. I just felt that I needed to share my hesitancy with with the rest of you.
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I'm ultimately happy to go along if that's the general decision.
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But that is, my instinctual reaction to this aspect of the design.
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I I had a similar reaction to the color of them.
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I know that what and re express is that the intention was to use the beautiful color of wood and stuff inside, and bring that outside.
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But if you're outside you don't know what is inside and so to me that works inside out.
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It doesn't work outside in I also think There are a lot of great, because the building is on bed for growth.
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There are only specific colors. How do you get as it is?
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Is where it looks right now don't necessarily agree that it won't get so like having seeing how we've started using outdoor spaces of all sorts like spending time in the city and seeing I know the
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last time you've been in that all the restaurants have built a lot of temporary outdoor structures that are licensed.
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I feel like we will use it enough to make it worthwhile.
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But i'm with you but i'm not thrilled about how it currently looks, and in the for those who may have been mistaken like me these purglas are not built of wood they're
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built of aluminum, and the aluminum comes in the variety of colors, including the one that henry's recommending, Yeah, what is like frogs any concern that the car was and the
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yeah, theater might become evening hang out kind of things.
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What I guess my question is, is that an issue? Yeah, Well, I yeah, I mean ?
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I don't think right
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Great. The issue will be the amphitheater and that especially because it'll go down and but I wonder if there's a way that we can like fence the top or something to make I think you might have
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right. So then, that makes it more of a deterrent to It's not like as it's just like an open space.
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I I also think that so like here kids are gonna do what they're gonna do.
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Anyway. I think the benefit to the community to have a space like that really out way, the potential of teams hanging out, which is gonna happen for any updoor space to build as the any outdoor space we have
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so but I feel like that's any time Okay, anytime, we're definitely here.
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I think that they I just think that the uses for the community at our I agree. And I also think that, like between planning design or camera, like, I feel like there are ways yeah.
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I agree, they don't like picking getting as easily. but the amplitude is, I don't know because I can't imagine how that's gonna be closed off at the top.
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It will like, just because that would be more But I think having a first space, and that's where I kind of I can understand what they're saying about the the look of it.
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But I do think outverse these as someone who has young children.
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Still, I think, when they were even younger, it's not as much an issue now by 20 or 9, and can be quiet in the library, and I would have done anything when they were little to have a place where we could been outside I feel like they could have
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story times out there, I mean the Semi is doing that right now she's literally sitting on the if you ever drive by the middle of the day.
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This debbie's like on reading and singing and doing the amazing things, since he does.
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But like out in the open. that's also I feel like, you know, Paris we used to hang out on the golf course.
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I don't know about you guys but then it's like
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I. but I just think that I agree with Julia.
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Check so many of the boxes that were important to us and So we're not gonna talk money if I had to choose. So you know, came down to like an either or I would personally cause I feel like I can't
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choose just the downstairs Better sense
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Alright. So here's the opening over here like this where these stores are great right there.
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This room continues through the back. The this is would be carved out of the magazine.
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I guess so.
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So we lose the big community have a a movie, or that kind of we'd be up in here This room is generally used this way and what what John shared with us at least
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that's what I took away as with the exception of the art show which now we've created a bunch of different spaces.
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With that a patch that used all this space.
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They tended to always use workshop, and it was like, made it impossible to use the other section here last week. where setup was the performance where Bill is and the But that still can happen.
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This yeah, Well, and maybe it doesn't happen down here because now you'll have the space upstairs depending on how what the performers need, and you know like exactly ,
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So that was fine. I also feel like what this space is being used for like 80.
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Yeah, I mean I or maybe it could be like I think we're creating more space than just this
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Sorry I was looking for downstairs Slide yeah so you're looking from upstairs.
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But you could see the larger meeting rooms down that's that's the the wavy tables that's where we are Now and then it's an opened up space that way
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And then it isn't the amplitude as though
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How about I think they were talking about if they needed to have additional bathrooms.
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Yeah, we think I thought there might be a need for additional months, okay, But there was another meeting or programming room that was off of the campus.
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Right? Alright, yeah, trying to get a sense of that. Yeah, you know, Staff is now.
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Oops stared in so there's no steps based downstairs, now in this correct
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Definitely problematic. Do they want? now? I know that they want the whole basis to be above ground, and I totally agree.
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But is there the concern of not having any? Where should it be a situation where?
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Yeah. I don't have an answer to that and then, like in a general sense, I can't speak to your staff.
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They're they're very anxious to find out how things will we play out also that it's really to really tell. So it's you know you can't promise things now that they go through a lot of different variations.
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So I they're. They are concerned. that they're gonna have space that they need to do what they need to do primarily concerned about not having enough space.
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No, they're concerned. it's making sure they have a space to do what they need to do.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, Yeah. cause like hardly even uses that.
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So you know, that's not needed for something else. So there is a There is a need for places for staff to be able to have a deal with I don't think it's all been determined yet also want them to be
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comfortable. I mean. we want the staff to have the spaces.
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They need to be comfortable. I mean you both people work are more productive, but they have what they need.
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So we definitely want have they seen any they've seen these channels.
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We put them up down here that much rubbling more excitement, more excitement, Yeah. Okay, good.
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Well, that's well I good i'm glad that that's how that the general plus I also feel like because we can't, for whatever reason, do the amp theater or the atrium i'm still super thrilled
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with the interior renderings, and the other chain like don't get me wrong.
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I I would also But even just It's a drastic enough to change especially with this piece here like opening up down when he did.
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That I was like Oh, and pushing fast, but I just feel like that.
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No, this is what it's a huge difference.
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So like that to me, the computer and the you know the portic power, are like the webcam of cherry, but like those are bonus kind of else foundational comments there.
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Reach. Yes, let's see, I think in a post covid world, not having some not having some outers into doing this is not in our yeah I do I really do. I don't disagree, but I think We also
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have outcomes. and there are other ways .
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Less designed. but we could I just want to make sure So that's my thing is like, yeah, we're hopefully coming to the other side of this group.
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Yeah, I agree we do have space, but i'd like to see it in a way that is safer. Everybody .
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That's all
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Dick, do you feel like you were heard, or there more things that you would add or no?
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I was very impressed with the with all the plans.
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I had some doubts about the the annotator, and was concerned about the security surrounding it.
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But nothing. that my limited imagination when it comes to our architectural Matt is could someone up?
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But I Again I was very impressed with the thoughtfulness and the creativity that came from
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From Henry and his team. It is very thoughtful if I mean it really is taking the space.
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And really, we're gonna
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So it sounds like our our main questions are around young adults.
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Yeah, So yeah, And maybe you want a little more specifics on the children.
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Yes, and I think we have conserved on the ,
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What would be the process I should know that's my husband planning, for which is all setting architecture like?
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Would we consider sharing things at this point for input or buying or is it too early like? How does that normally work with stuff like this?
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It's waiting too long, but you end Julie, I didn't hear what you said sharing with both.
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Well, you know I I work my whole career citizens against pace expansion.
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I'll play it. I live in an anniversary yes, we got a lot of brief about here.
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It doesn't hurt the good ballboard just like you know.
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What do you think permitting this well that's true Because if they're like no way really work session or getting in early ?
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I'm really am top.
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Well, better people can answer this question I think that could I just go back when Julie, you began the question you were talking about sharing with some group it wasn't filled the planning board and the architectural
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Review Board and we are in a historical overlay district.
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So there have been recent proposals on Bedford that have gotten.
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Come on, come onster, and push back or not, Kabash, but like not permitted as envisioning and given.
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This is prominent public building on this space. my question was, Do we gain anything?
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And sharing the exterior elements with them for initial feedback.
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Before we progress in pricing or is it they're like else to the know. then, we should reconsider before we Okay, it's tough money.
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Yeah, I mean I think we have a general sense. One of the reasons I wanted to wait till schedule some more appropriate numbers for available just signed like to approve the master plan
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but
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But that being set, you can approve the master plan as a vision.
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Then we have to think about How would we possibly and That's where you talk money.
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Did you hit start before you wanted to say
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To the 3.7 million that brings us Yeah, above 5 min.
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But perhaps something that could be supported without a a fundraising effort throughout the community for us to fully move forward with the the vision and the master plan.
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I think it would necessitate our undertaking fundraising, and I think that's an issue that we just have to face to head on and see how we would approach it.
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John, I know, had some ideas and i'm sure There are others who might be able to help us through the process.
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But it is different from anything we've undertaken before, and I just wanted to.
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You know, state the obvious that we have to figure out if we do wanna be as ambitious as the plan allows us to be.
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To figure out how we would be able to pay for it.
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And of course, fundraising does mean that, we have a far greater involvement with our our constituents.
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The patrons of the library, then we might otherwise have had if we were just doing something more modest, such as the the the first 2 ideas with respect to the main library.
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The first 2 I I mean my whole thing is like the first 2 ideas with respect to the main library.
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Aren't really ideas it's like hey? tank dryer in this vessel for meeting, and then and for half a 1 million more. I can add a last partition, and nothing else changes and that feels but that's
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sort of the money we have. What can we get close? So the question is, in order to get us to the next step.
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If we go the root of fundraising. I have a real difficulty with that.
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People was a little history lesson for those who were here.
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We we used to have used to have pretty much full responsibility.
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We the Board itself. John acted as a as a construction manager.
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Whenever we did anything, everything fell on the library board and mostly staff over the past like 4 years or so.
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The village and the town and library board very hard to put in place and the Ip.
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Is very specific about fun that's why I sent everyone and it basically says the you know, we're doing the interior stuff meeting that that's us. but if it's gonna be a big half a half old project, the town in
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the village have to support it, and that means money if we were to say, and if they say no, if they don't have the money because it is, you know somewhat now, he must say to them today.
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Oh, oh, make sure we're gonna need 6 million dollars be ready for that!
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If we Oh, the root of fundraising we're looking away from the I am we're we're taking it on ourselves, putting the library back position potentially responsible already.
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Guy may have been the gift to this live part for us, for I mean, look at the construction I mean
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With account, and be able to engage in Congress is it Well, we can't .
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They own this building. they should have Everyone buys into this.
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Yeah, then you may not have it tomorrow the plan But it's like, So would you be proposing Yeah, that's what we want to try and do bigger like the actual or the full upgrade that we would go to
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the village in the town, it said, This is what we propose.
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I think that's going to be part of the process they have to their ability.
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We're gonna make major reservations right, but I think, and and there certainly will be an ass here.
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It may not be in the position. Yeah, I mean the market's terrible I guess I'm just still not connecting why
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Can't be enough fundraising effort to support I mean it.
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It could be within comes that they find but wouldn't they be grateful for any contributions.
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I don't know I mean so therefore we share amongst the town.
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Yes, and I don't have an issue asking them telling them what the price is. And then, if they say, how are we gonna pay for this talking about like, can we not talk about I guess i'm not really understanding?
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I understand what the sales I don't know enough about the mechanics.
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So I I mean, if we somebody gives us money right they'd be happy.
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Us going out. i'm using I I feel that we have yes, no.
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I totally get so like. But the sequence of events then, would be.
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This is the proposal that, and I I have one that I would love to talk about, which is like what happens if we don't upgrade the branch and take the almost 1 million dollars there, and apply it to the meeting, because and go all in
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on this location as an option not to discount residents there.
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But it's not as highly used. if we could make this more of a show piece with like our existing budget. but like so step.
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And I thought, this is why we brought them along in our showcase.
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Session is to get Carl and to get Peter and some of the folks kind of like understanding what the future looks like, etc., because we were gonna go to them and say like this is our option.
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We could do this we could do that. gauge that appetite.
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No, I don't I
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If we would be going, we would have to you would have to hire someone I'm sure we're talking about see. So if we do the branch and then the full upgrade configuration, So that's 8
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1 million never and another 2.5 million for soft cost and another So that's the that's the number that we.
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So we're all that's a total project cost of 12 million and scarceale is like 10 okay.
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So I mean in theory in house maybe 5 right
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Not seemingly good right, but that's like really stretching so if we we look at 5, if we bond replace the bond sorry John 5 right and
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that's really stretching not that We would It's not served like usually. so there's another 7 million that we need to.
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Is that realistic that's What i'm But I don't.
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I, you know, based on historical if no call in the Mayor of our open to it.
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Okay.
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Okay, that's the most of the rough numbers work. yeah if we want the full by the and then there are some pieces.
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Yeah. So this may ask you the question but when we didn't know, and we needed helped kind of figure out what was possible.
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We went through this process, like is there, and I know if we were to fundraise, we need to hire something to do it.
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But is there such a person that we paid? Do a consulting project with to talk about what would be involved in fundraising? likely?
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Better anything like that, so that we could kind of better understand that opportunity
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Thank you I don't really but there's a lot of process to as well.
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Person,
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I just like I don't have enough disability to like any of how that works.
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So like It all feels like very like I have no idea like you tell me, I guess.
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And this is probably like super super nice of me a part of me wonders, and I don't know that the case.
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This is the case in that wasn't also but one of the things that doesn't fell backs right in our Rec.
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Department or kids is a programming area or any areas for municipal gathering.
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And we are basically proposing between the amphitheater and our programming rooms and other spaces that can be accessible into the library with the bathroom And I wonder whether there are other
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budgets in the like that we have to start to think about like this, or the choices that we made makes this the community opportunity that extends potentially their feeling of contribution.
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And it's again. I could be like a massively naive about that.
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But like Friday night pay right pay programs at the Rec center in like a bunker with like painted, you know I don't say space. Yeah, I mean, I know about doesn't have much different and larger I feel like recreation.
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And community space. But outcome. Did you have something that adder, alright, with community space?
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You have a much larger space, right? We have an exceptional community space and Ibm.
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Donated land many, many years ago, when I was on the board and
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It's St. of the art, and it's well used by the seniors, and I like the fact that we have the the the the Mini library there.
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But you know. let's go back to your vision your vision is exceptional.
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I love it. I think you gotta think big if you're gonna do this.
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Don't only because what you're doing is you're creating something for the future, for not only the town, but for the village.
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So I think personally, you should be aggressive and think big and see and call feel in the boards.
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Let's see if we're gonna be in but I I I think if you're gonna do this, you you got a creative plan.
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You got. Henry is brilliant. I love the plan.
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I I think I mean i've been around helping out 30 years I love it.
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I think I I think this really leave a lasting impact for the residents, so I would go all in and then figure out if you can fund raise
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The question was legal question to Ima whether you can fund raise.
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But I I would be super super aggressive, and I rather I have a gigantic vision.
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And have someone tell me No, we only could afford someone so but I I would. I would go all in and
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I love what you're doing i've also consider the outdoor space.
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There was a lot of good questions with respect to safety, and and you know, How do you police?
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Do you put cameras? One of the one of the suggestions is the supervisor made was so maybe perhaps enclosed that area so it could be a multi.
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It could be used for the whole for the whole season, except a set of just seasonal.
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From a design perspective. That area is brilliant it's it's absolutely beautiful.
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I loved it. But how do you police it it's almost like in? Is it going to be a hangout?
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Is it going to be a problem? Aesthetically, it looks phenomenal, and I love the concept of the theater and helping kids, and for the community sense of it.
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But difficult area to police. You may want to enclose that. but my vice you is, think big.
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Go all in and let's see what the numbers are and do you think
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So again. You think the town board would be open to a big ask from us.
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That's how I would think I I think that's the way to proceed. I mean i've been around for a long time, and I like, I said you're creating something that's gonna be it's it's
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phenomenal it's it's gonna affect a lot of people's lives in such a positive light, and you got a chance to do something that's so magnificent I I would just go my advice is go for
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it, and let's see where it goes from there and if the 2 of the town in the village could I mean we have a great relationship with Peter.
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And if Peter Peter and call seems super positive whether we did the walkthrough, they were enthusiastic, and they I thought they loved it.
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And I think I think you gotta ask for that's the top and see where it comes.
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So broader community impact right and that's that's the position we're dealing with that for school issue we're dealing with rep center But I totally I agree But I totally I I agree with Tom, I
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think like to go in and be like alright well we're just gonna do the very minimum.
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After we've been through all of this feels kind of like a waste. i'm sorry it does like.
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Why is we need to go, and we need to get that acm.
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So cosmetic differences for the children's room it's not much more.
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We just decided to do that, and just upgrade children through, you know.
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Why not? Why not take this opportunity? we're gonna be taking out balls?
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We're gonna be taking out the ceiling we have to do it, anyway?
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Why not take this the opportunity? Make this library really address today's needs meeting spaces, flexible spaces in close spaces where we study so that we get a variety of activities that are happening ?
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And so this is the opportunity and that's that's.
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The next end is the question of doing good. All at once we do it step by step.
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Get there. Yeah, that has to be that has to be looked at in depth.
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There are a lot of costs associated with doing it in phases.
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Not only are you gonna have to set up, and you know use that.
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Then you have to finish that, and then redo it up.
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The other side is licensed in time, and you know what time is doing to us right now in terms of monetary costs.
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So. that would I mean I obviously we have to like talk to you, John, and we're missing.
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I feel like next steps after we talk is support. We need to be to to chat with the village.
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What do you think? I feel like? Yeah.
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Tom gave us great perspective what I know. David was very, very impressed with the plan.
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And you know, given his experience with a library design around the country.
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That was very good. I i'm very encouraged to by your enthusiasm, and I can only say I i've only had limited exposure to Peter and and Carl but in observing them.
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during the walkthrough. I was very impressed with their engagement and their own enthusiasm with what, what we were being shown.
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I think it's important that we move quickly in this regard I mean, I think we have to do it with as much political acumen as we can.
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But I i'm very encouraged Tom given you know your position.
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That you think this is something that we can pursue with the the town and the village, of course, as well.
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Oh, like I said before you got to think big and I think as a board, you're creating something for the future for for not only senior citizens, but children, but you're you're really gonna leave something that's gonna
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it's futuristic. it's you're thinking ahead and it's just don't don't do part of it.
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Do the whole thing and go all in, and and if they see that I mean the plans are brilliant. if they see the enthusiasm and the vision you have oh, maybe perhaps figure out a way to pay for it
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Thank you. sounds great. I need to schedule
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Together, and whether right right, John will be here ,
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Well, and then, we'll have to go like leave the test to go to the village
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Okay, no. Do we want to? So the next meeting I think would be August eighteenth, right?
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Which Rebecca you're gone
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Yeah, we have August first works for me like a zoom in
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I think, John to Thursday, Wednesday sorry.
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Wednesday 7 o'clock that works for me.
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I think it's important for us to get as healthy a turnout from from the board, as we can, and have flexibility in case we discovered that the third doesn't work for people we ought to try if we can deal
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with it logistically to having everyone everyone August third. I can't make.
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We have Cpr Cfrd. training a pleasant little country club, so I have to go for training for that.
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So I won't. be able to make it I I I think Tom, you you can be crucial in all of this for the fourth.
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Then if that works for people, yes, yeah alright i'm gonna ask everyone to respond, and they make it on the board.
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Yeah perfect, I do. Okay, but also I didn't have anything about the fan.
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And this doesn't have to be part of the meeting. but I wanted to ask you to see hired a new librarian.
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I feel like maybe a few months ago, terrific, ,
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Okay, while we're still being recorded that the summer reading program, I'm: getting so much positive feedback from the community, right?
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People are really enthusiastic and sure, normally enjoying it.
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And so I just while we are recording
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Well, yes, okay, she's so little anything else alright.
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I need a motion to during the meeting
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Fully
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Happy Good evening. Alright, thank you. chat first.